#1127 White supremacy requires violence and there is more to come (Charlottesville)

Air Date: 8-22-2017

Today we look at what may be the violent death throes of white supremacy. As Trump and the GOP embolden white supremacists to action and violence, the rest of the country is awoken to the need to deal swiftly and decisively with the relics of our racist past

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Show Notes

Ch. 1: Opening Theme: A Fond Farewell - From a Basement On the Hill

Ch. 2: Act 1: Keri Leigh Merritt on the underlying purposes of white supremacy - CounterSpin (@FAIRmediawatch) - Air Date 8-18-17

Ch. 3: Song 1:  Out With the Old - Casa Di Mondo

Ch. 4: Act 2: The history of the raising of Civil War monuments - @offkiltershow - Air Date 8-18-17

Ch. 5: Song 2:  RACIST MONUMENT SING-A-LONG - @theyoungturks - Air Date: 05-06-17

Ch. 6: Act 3: American racism during Jim Crow inspired and helped legitimize the Nazis - @RalphNader Radio Hour - Air Date 6-24-17

Ch. 7: Song 3:  Nazi (Live) - Chumbawamba

Ch. 8: Act 4: The homegrown practice of honoring a history of white supremacy - Backstory - Air Date 8-18-17

Ch. 9: Song 4:  A Dose of White Supremacy - Neffe Odom Kragh-Muller

Ch. 12: Act 5: Descendant of Robert E. Lee Wants to Bring Down the Statues - @RedactedTonight w: @LeeCamp - Air Date 08-19-17

Ch. 13: Song 5:  Trapped (Live) - Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band

Ch. 14: Act 6: The white supremacist standard intimidation strategy  - Frangela: The Final Word - Air Date 08-15-2017

Ch. 15: Song 6:  Civil War - Guns N' Roses

Ch. 16: Act 7:  The role of the Republican Party to embolden white supremacists - Code Switch - Air Date 8-16-17

Ch. 17: Song 7:  Shame - Ophelia of the Spirits

Ch. 18: Act 8: WATCH: Trump And White Supremacist Parrot Same Talking Points - @theyoungturks - Air Date: 08-18-17

Ch. 19: Song 8:  Where Do You Stand? - Willie Nelson

Ch. 19: Act 9: A view from the local synagogue - Backstory - Air Date 8-18-17

Ch. 19: Song 9:  American Land - Bruce Springsteen

Ch. 20: Act 10: Send a Letter: It’s Time to Take Down Confederate Monuments via @splcenter- Best of the Left Activism

Ch. 19: Song 10:  Activism - Shihan

Ch. 21: Act 11: On the need to restrict harmful speech and white identity politics - #PoliticallyReactive with @wkamaubell and @harikondabolu - Air Date 8-17-17


Ch. 22: Do we know the motivations for the creation of white supremacy? - Kyle from Portland, WA

Ch. 23: Mighty Network feedback! - Alan from Connecticut

Voicemail Music: Loud Pipes - Classics

Ch. 24: Final comments on continuing a conversation about freedom of speech

Closing Music: Here We Are - Everyone's in Everyone



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I'm a black Southerner. I had to go abroad to see a statue celebrating black liberation. (Vox)

Provocative ‘Free Speech’ Rally In Boston Railroaded By Counterprotesters (Huffington Post)

ACLU Will No Longer Defend Hate Groups Protesting With Firearms (Wall Street Journal)

The Real Story Behind All Those Confederate Statues (Mother Jones)

Nazis Don’t Seem to Understand How Free Speech Works (GQ)

Imagine if these people ever faced actual oppression. (Twitter thread by @JuliusGoat)

Trump goes off script, and white supremacists cheer (Politico)

Written by BOTL Communications Director, Amanda Hoffman

Produced by Jay! Tomlinson

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  • Craig Heilman
    commented 2017-09-15 17:28:12 -0400
    I was taken aback while listening to this episode towards the end. I’ve only recently discovered the show and have been pretty much binge listening for the past week or so. I was very upset during the clip from politically reactive, where they were lamenting the fact that people after the election were complaining about the preoccupation with identity politics. Their comment was “if you were one of those people complaining about identity politics, fuck you!” My immediate response was “well fuck you too!” I actually said that out loud in the car.

    I was one of those people, criticizing the left for it’s obsession with identity politics, Clinton ran on a platform of identity politics and lost. But that’s not what I’m here to talk about. I’m coming to terms with the fact that I may have been a Marxist fundamentalist, believing that class is the only meaningful distinction in society. My thinking has been changing lately, in no small part due to the best of the left podcast. Recent developments have made the distinction of race more apparent than ever, and the nuanced and well articulated arguments made on the show have been making an impact.

    Then when I got that “fuck you” that didn’t endear me to her side, it didn’t make me want to apologize and thank her for being so direct. It made me mad!

    I find it a little disheartening that in all the episodes I’ve listened to, discussing everything from white nationalists to neoliberals to drug warriors, the most direct and contemptuous attack was reserved for me, a fellow leftist who just had a view that was different from hers. I don’t know. I just find that kind of talk divisive and not persuasive, and I wanted to get these thoughts out somewhere so here I am!
  • Dean Smith
    commented 2017-08-24 11:13:51 -0400
    One of the most incredible acts of putting your money where your mouth is was the ACLU’s defense of the Waco klan member who refused to give his list of klan members to a court. A black ACLU lawyer represented the grand poobah and won, as he should have. http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/10/news/a-klansman-s-black-lawyer-and-a-principle.html?pagewanted=all

    I get that. I get Skokie. I get defending human speech, and defending hateful human speech is mandatory, you can’t have yours without letting them have theirs. It really is that simple. The answer to violence is to make the police do their jobs. That’s another subject.

    Where I don’t agree with them is Citizens United, and I quit the ACLU for a lot of years because of it. They supported extending speech rights to corporations because, they said, unions are corporations, and Citizens United also protects union speech. But they could have argued that a for-profit corporation is not the same as a non-profit organization that represents the will of its members through voting. One person, one vote, is completely different from 10 shares, 10 votes.

    I see that bright line. But I don’t see a safe way to tell supremacists they can’t rally because the event might turn violent without endangering everybody’s right to rally. That’s just too important to fuck with.
  • Kia Kiani
    followed this page 2017-08-23 23:36:22 -0400
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