#916 The history and current state of abortion (Reproductive Justice)

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Today we listen to some of the stories behind the policies and personal choices being made about abortion in America

Show Notes

Ch. 1: Opening Theme: A Fond Farewell - From a Basement On the Hill

00:00:30 Ch. 2: Act 1: Dorothy Fadiman Doc: Motherhood by Choice, Not by Chance Part 1 - @Making_Contact - Air Date: 2-3-15

Ch. 3: Song 1: La valse d'Amélie (Version piano) - Yann Tiersen

00:11:00 Ch. 4: Act 2: The Stories That Stay With Us - @AbortionFunds - Air Date: 09-27-13

Ch. 5: Song 2: Basique - Little People

00:17:28 Ch. 6: Act 3: Dorothy Fadiman Doc: Motherhood by Choice, Not by Chance Part 2 - @Making_Contact - Air Date: 2-3-15

Ch. 7: Song 3: Everyday - Single - Carly Comando

00:29:58 Ch. 8: Act 4: #nofilter: Renee's Digital Memoir - @ThisIsFusion - Air Date: 02-18-15

Ch. 9: Song 4: Happy - Sister Hazel

00:32:31 Ch. 10: Act 5: The Term 'Abortion Doctor' is Ridiculous - @davidpakmanshow - Air Date: 01-02-15

Ch. 11: Song 5: The Obvious Child - Paul Simon

00:37:11 Ch. 12: Act 6: The Case of Purvi Patel & the Criminalization of Pregnancy - This Week in Blackness (@TWiBnation) - Air Date: 4-2-15

Ch. 13: Song 6: Alright Alright (Here's My Fist Where's the Fight?) - Sahara Hotnights

00:45:06 Ch. 14: Act 7: 20 Years in Prison for Miscarrying? The Case of Purvi Patel & the Criminalization of Pregnancy - @democracynow - Air Date: 4-2-15

Ch. 15: Song 7: Get Up and Go - Single - Broadcast 2000

00:56:47 Ch. 16: Act 8: #FreePurviPatel via @rhrealitycheck — Best of the Left Activism


00:59:30 Ch. 17: Police behavior and the rules of war - Eric from Alabama

01:01:42 Ch. 18: An essay on capitalism - Peter from Michigan

01:04:51 Ch. 19: A message to white people - Charlie in St. Louis

Voicemail Music: Loud Pipes - Classics

01:06:34 Ch. 20: Final comments on Citizen Ruth and The Obvious Child

Closing Music: Here We Are - Everyone's in Everyone

Activism: #FreePurviPatel via @rhrealitycheck

Take Action:

SIGN ”Overturn the #PurviPatel Conviction; Repeal Indiana’s Feticide Law” via RH Reality Check

Sources/further reading:

"Purvi Patel Sentenced to 41 Years for Feticide and Neglect of a Dependent” by Imani Gandy at RH Reality Check

Read RH Reality Check's extensive coverage on Purvi Patel’s case

"How Indiana Is Making It Possible to Jail Women for Having Abortions” by Lynn Paltrow of National Advocates for Pregnant Women

"So Far, 2015 Is On Pace to Set Abortion Restriction Records” by Katie Klabusich at Truthout

Written by BOTL social media/activism director Katie Klabusich

Produced by Jay! Tomlinson

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  • Daniel Jared Morris De León
    commented 2015-05-02 10:56:46 -0400
    I was only using an impossible hypothetical example to try to make a point. I ask again, if it were you, and you COULD respond, how would you?
    The new born baby isn’t aware of the existential debate either, but I hope you’d at least say it’s wrong to kill the child once it’s born. But following your same logic, we should kill new born babies if we change our minds about having them too, because they also lack the cognitive development to form that opinion.
    The clump of cells you refer to is also going to be an autonomous man or woman in the future. Is that potential person less valuable than the convenience for someone alive today who went and had an accident and just doesn’t want to deal with the consequences? Is that clump of cells worth more dead than alive in the future?
    It’s not a matter of me being a man who physically can’t get pregnant. It’s a matter of me being a human being who has the right to live. Or do you think that’s not a right we should have?
  • rachel atwood
    commented 2015-05-02 10:41:36 -0400
    if I were that clump of cells way back in the day, there’d be no cognizant “me” to have an opinion on my existence either way. Pretty sure any & all such clumps of cells also have no opinion on the validity of their nonexistence—-even you, I dare say, lacked those cognitive skills. Is there any way to get you to understand what it’s like to have your body serve as the battleground for these existential debates without your consent? If biological men could get pregnant somehow, would you still toe such a rigid line?
  • Daniel Jared Morris De León
    commented 2015-05-02 10:31:15 -0400
    If you were that “clump of cells” inside your mother’s womb, your mother wanted an abortion for convenience, and let’s just say hypothetically that your mom could ask you, “Would you mind if I just abort you? I didn’t want to have you just yet anyway, it was more of an accident…”
    I don’t know about you, but I would be like, “Heck no, you can’t abort me! It’s not my fault you went and had me. It’s not my fault you don’t want me, but there’s a great big world out there and now that I’m here, I want a chance to live!”
    Obviously this is hypothetical. If my mom were to die upon giving birth, then I’d probably say to abort me. At THAT point I’d say the mom should have the right to choose.
    The point is, it’s not the fault of the unborn that they physically cannot choose. But being adults in this world, WE should be mature and responsible enough to know the obvious answer if we were able to ask that child.
    There are 3 situations I can think of for an abortion: convenience, rape, or when giving birth will kill the mother (I forgot what that one was called), and MOST of the time it’s the first, meaning the mother didn’t really have to end up in a situation where she’d be making that choice, but she is, and her preference would be to let her innocent child, who didn’t choose whether or not to exist and who won’t choose whether or not to keep existing, die.
    And we have people defending this concept because there’s no accountability. The parents never meet the baby they killed, so they don’t really have to feel bad about killing it. Why don’t we discuss the rights of the unheard babies?
    And I repeat my statement from before: The ONLY reason legalizing abortion is a good idea is because it puts these women in the hands of capable doctors rather than “some guy who can get the job done” or leaving them to try to abort themselves from home. At least it’s done “properly” and they’re not risking doing it in some dirty place in a dangerous way.

    So to answer your question, the clump of cells isn’t more important than the autonomous woman, but the autonomous woman went and used her autonomy in a way she KNEW might give her that consequence. It’s time to step up to the plate, live with consequences of reality, and NOT kill the unborn child, who doesn’t have the blame for not being able to answer whether or not it would like to go on living regardless of its mother’s preference.
  • rachel atwood
    commented 2015-05-02 08:06:59 -0400
    you consider a clump of cells a more valuable life form than an autonomous woman, Daniel?
  • Daniel Jared Morris De León
    commented 2015-04-28 07:50:50 -0400
    I just wanted to share my opinion on this episode…. I was unable to finish it. If there is ANYTHING that justifies legalization of abortion, it’s the fact that if it’s legal, at least it gets done “right” and in a sanitary environment by someone who knows what he’s doing.
    But I could not listen to all the talk about “violating women’s rights” when we’re discussing the life of a human being who is not given the right to choose whether he/she wants to live or not.
    The last time we thought a certain group of “people” were sub-human, we were proven terribly wrong by the anti slavery movements. And if a sick person relies on a machine to stay alive, does that make him more human than a fetus who relies on its mother to stay alive before it’s born?
    Almost all abortions are due to convenience, not even rape scenarios. In other words, people who couldn’t keep their clothes on. Call me old fashioned, but the best way to avoid unwanted pregnancies is undoubtedly abstention. There are definitely rights being violated here, but it’s not the women; it’s the unborn.
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