Show Notes
Ch. 1: Opening Theme: Loving Acoustic Instrumental by John Douglas Orr
Ch. 2: Act 1: Confederacy - @LastWeekTonight with @iamjohnoliver - Air Date 10-09-17
Ch. 3: Song 1: Long and Low Cloud - The Bulwark
Ch. 4: Act 2: Avenue of Second Place Trophies - Backstory - Air Date 6-22-17
Ch. 5: Song 2: N/A
Ch. 6: Act 3: Monumental Questions - On The Media - Air Date 10-31-17
Ch. 7: Song 3: Gullwing Sailor - Migration
Ch. 8: Act 4: Taking Down the Confederacy — Symbol by Symbol - @theLFshow w @GRITlaura Flanders - Air Date 5-2-18
Ch. 9: Song 4: Inessential - Bayou Birds
Ch. 10: Act 5: Bryan Stevenson on the racial terrorism of lynching - Cape Up - Air Date 4-24-18
Ch. 11: Song 5: Heather - Migration
Ch. 12: Act 6: Thoughtful comments on the process of remembering history - Code Switch - Air Date 8-23-17
Ch. 13: Song 6: Open Flames - Aeronaut
Ch. 14: Act 7: Mitch Landrieu on understanding the debate over southern culture - The Ezra Klein Show - Air Date 3-26-18
Ch. 15: Song 7: Yarrow and Root - The Bulwark
Ch. 16: Act 8: Bryan Stevenson on the ongoing burden of the disease of white supremacy - Cape Up - Air Date 4-24-18
Ch. 17: Final comments on understanding the moral argument of those who defend the Confederacy but not slavery
Bonus Clip: A defense of the non-slave-holding confederate soldier's motives - Code Switch - Air Date 8-23-17
Closing Music: Upbeat Laid Back Indie Rock by Alex Stinnent
(Additional music from Blue Dot Sessions)
Produced by Jay! Tomlinson
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I do not and did not think that you were giving this guy a pass but I would have asked him to explain the last few years of the debate in the senate pertaining to the war and to justify what the people who representted the south were saying, then try to justify his view which completely avoided and connection to reality. I would have pushed him, too, on his view that his family were just poor whites and to point out that that had nothing to do with the issue.
I will keep listening and try to learn and I appreciate the opportunity to communicate with you. Please keep up the good work!
What I was pointing out was that there was at least some reason why he thinks what he does and it’s a reason that I think a lot of progressives don’t understand. Again, there is a huge difference between trying to understand why the person thinks what he does and giving their point of view any legitimacy. There are a lot of videos on YouTube that would help you understand why some people think the world is flat but understanding why they think that doesn’t make me give their opinion any more credence.
I think that trying to understand WHY the “other side” thinks the way it does gives us a better chance of changing minds. Broadly speaking, I don’t think we should be putting the majority of our effort into convincing Confederacy-defenders and white supremacists to mend their ways but I think that when we engage in those conversations we should do it in the most effective way possible. To me, the way to be the most effective is to understand how a person’s argument works (no matter how wrong they are) and speak to the issues they’re latched onto. The guy in that clip has latched onto the economic argument to defend his ancestor so we should understand how that argument works in order to answer it effectively, otherwise we just end up speaking past each other and there’s no chance of progress, that’s all I was advocating for.